Re: [PATCH V9 3/3] audit: add audit by children of executable path

On August 6, 2015 5:11:50 PM Steve Grubb <sgrubb(a)redhat.com&gt; wrote: >On Thursday, August 06, 2015 04:24:58 PM Paul Moore wrote: >> On Wednesday, August 05, 2015 04:29:38 PM Richard Guy Briggs wrote: >> > This adds the ability to audit the actions of children of a >> > not-yet-running >> > process. >> > >> > >> > >> > This is a split-out of a heavily modified version of a patch originally >> > submitted by Eric Paris with some ideas from Peter Moody. >> > >> > >> > >> > Cc: Peter Moody <peter(a)hda3.com&gt; >> > Cc: Eric Paris <eparis(a)redhat.com&gt; >> > Signed-off-by: Richard Guy Briggs <rgb(a)redhat.com&gt; >> > --- >> > >> > include/uapi/linux/audit.h | 1 + >> > kernel/auditfilter.c | 5 +++++ >> > kernel/auditsc.c | 11 +++++++++++ >> > 3 files changed, 17 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) >> >> I'm still not really comfortable with that loop and since there hasn't been >> a really convincing use case I'm going to pass on this patch for right >> now. If someone comes up with a *really* compelling case in the future >> I'll reconsider it. > >Its the same reason strace has a -f option. Sometimes you need to also see >what the children did. For example, maybe you want to audit file access to a >specific directory and several cgi-bin programs can get there. You could write >a rule for apache and be done. Or maybe, you have an app that lets people have >shell access and you need to see files accessed or connections opened. Or maybe >its a control panel application with helper scripts and you need to see >changes that its making. Or maybe you have a program that is at risk of being >compromised and you want to see if someone gets a shell from it. There are a >lot of cases where it could be useful. > >-Steve > >-- >Linux-audit mailing list &gt;Linux-audit(a)redhat.com >https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-audit I guess what I'm saying is that I'm not currently convinced that there is enough value in this to offset the risk I feel the loop presents. I understand the use cases that you are mentioning, the are the same as the last time we discussed this, but I'm going to need something better than that.

paul moore