On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 5:02 PM Richard Guy Briggs <rgb(a)redhat.com> wrote:
On 2020-03-23 20:16, Paul Moore wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 6:03 PM Richard Guy Briggs <rgb(a)redhat.com> wrote:
> > On 2020-03-18 18:06, Paul Moore wrote:
>
> ...
>
> > > I hope we can do better than string manipulations in the kernel. I'd
> > > much rather defer generating the ACID list (if possible), than
> > > generating a list only to keep copying and editing it as the record is
> > > sent.
> >
> > At the moment we are stuck with a string-only format.
>
> Yes, we are. That is another topic, and another set of changes I've
> been deferring so as to not disrupt the audit container ID work.
>
> I was thinking of what we do inside the kernel between when the record
> triggering event happens and when we actually emit the record to
> userspace. Perhaps we collect the ACID information while the event is
> occurring, but we defer generating the record until later when we have
> a better understanding of what should be included in the ACID list.
> It is somewhat similar (but obviously different) to what we do for
> PATH records (we collect the pathname info when the path is being
> resolved).
Ok, now I understand your concern.
In the case of NETFILTER_PKT records, the CONTAINER_ID record is the
only other possible record and they are generated at the same time with
a local context.
In the case of any event involving a syscall, that CONTAINER_ID record
is generated at the time of the rest of the event record generation at
syscall exit.
The others are only generated when needed, such as the sig2 reply.
We generally just store the contobj pointer until we actually generate
the CONTAINER_ID (or CONTAINER_OP) record.
Perhaps I'm remembering your latest spin of these patches incorrectly,
but there is still a big gap between when the record is generated and
when it is sent up to the audit daemon. Most importantly in that gap
is the whole big queue/multicast/unicast mess.
You don't need to show me code, but I would like to see some sort of
plan for dealing with multiple nested audit daemons. Basically I just
want to make sure we aren't painting ourselves into a corner with this
approach; and if for some horrible reason we are, I at least want us
to be aware of what we are getting ourselves into.
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paul moore
www.paul-moore.com