On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:48:17AM -0400, Stephen Smalley wrote:
On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 08:40 -0700, Casey Schaufler wrote:
> --- Stephen Smalley <sds(a)tycho.nsa.gov> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 04:44 +0200, Ahmed S. Darwish wrote:
> > > Hi!,
> > >
> > > Setup the new Audit hooks for Smack. The AUDIT_SUBJ_USER and
> > > AUDIT_OBJ_USER SELinux flags are recycled to avoid `auditd'
> > > userspace modifications. Smack only needs auditing on
> > > a subject/object bases, so those flags were enough.
> >
> > Only question I have is whether audit folks are ok with reuse of the
> > flags in this manner, and whether the _USER flag is best suited for this
> > purpose if you are going to reuse an existing flag (since Smack label
> > seems more like a SELinux type than a SELinux user).
>
> To-mate-o toe-maht-o.
>
> There really doesn't seem to be any real reason to create a new
> flag just because the granularity is different. The choice between
> _USER and _TYPE (and _ROLE for that matter) is arbitrary from a
> functional point of view. I say that since Smack has users, but
> not types or roles, _USER makes the most sense.
Perhaps I misunderstand, but Smack labels don't represent users (i.e.
user identity) in any way, so it seemed like a mismatch to use the _USER
flag there. Whereas types in SELinux bear some similarity to Smack
labels - simple unstructured names whose meaning is only defined by the
policy rules.
I think Casey meant the common use of Smack where a login program
(openssh, bin/login, ..) sets a label for each user that logs in, thus
letting each label effectively representing a user.
In a sense, smack labels share a bit of _USER and _TYPE.
Regardless, it seems like the audit maintainers ought to weigh in on
the
matter.
Indeed.
Regards,
--
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