On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 7:15 PM Jens Axboe <axboe(a)kernel.dk> wrote:
On 2/9/23 3:54 PM, Steve Grubb wrote:
> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 5:37:22 PM EST Paul Moore wrote:
>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2023 at 4:53 PM Richard Guy Briggs <rgb(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>>> On 2023-02-01 16:18, Paul Moore wrote:
>>>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 3:34 PM Richard Guy Briggs
<rgb(a)redhat.com>
> wrote:
>>>>> fadvise and madvise both provide hints for caching or access
pattern
>>>>> for file and memory respectively. Skip them.
>>>>
>>>> You forgot to update the first sentence in the commit description :/
>>>
>>> I didn't forget. I updated that sentence to reflect the fact that the
>>> two should be treated similarly rather than differently.
>>
>> Ooookay. Can we at least agree that the commit description should be
>> rephrased to make it clear that the patch only adjusts madvise? Right
>> now I read the commit description and it sounds like you are adjusting
>> the behavior for both fadvise and madvise in this patch, which is not
>> true.
>>
>>>> I'm still looking for some type of statement that you've done
some
>>>> homework on the IORING_OP_MADVISE case to ensure that it doesn't
end
>>>> up calling into the LSM, see my previous emails on this. I need more
>>>> than "Steve told me to do this".
>>>>
>>>> I basically just want to see that some care and thought has gone into
>>>> this patch to verify it is correct and good.
>>>
>>> Steve suggested I look into a number of iouring ops. I looked at the
>>> description code and agreed that it wasn't necessary to audit madvise.
>>> The rationale for fadvise was detemined to have been conflated with
>>> fallocate and subsequently dropped. Steve also suggested a number of
>>> others and after investigation I decided that their current state was
>>> correct. *getxattr you've advised against, so it was dropped. It
>>> appears fewer modifications were necessary than originally suspected.
>>
>> My concern is that three of the four changes you initially proposed
>> were rejected, which gives me pause about the fourth. You mention
>> that based on your reading of madvise's description you feel auditing
>> isn't necessary - and you may be right - but based on our experience
>> so far with this patchset I would like to hear that you have properly
>> investigated all of the madvise code paths, and I would like that in
>> the commit description.
>
> I think you're being unnecessarily hard on this. Yes, the commit message
> might be touched up. But madvise is advisory in nature. It is not security
> relevant. And a grep through the security directory doesn't turn up any
> hooks.
Agree, it's getting a bit anal... FWIW, patch looks fine to me.
Call it whatever you want, but the details are often important at this
level of code, and when I see a patch author pushing back on verifying
that their patch is correct it makes me very skeptical.
I really would have preferred that you held off from merging this
until this was resolved and ACK'd ... oh well.
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