I don't disagree. I would think the real solution to this would
be to
not allow sysadm_t to get to SystemHigh, where all of the logging data
will be stored.
make journalctl a userspace object manager and do selinux checks on if
it can see individual records? so secadm_t running journalctl would see
them and sysadm running journalctl wouldn't see them?
Sounds elegant. Who is going to code it? *NOT IT!*
On 04/24/2014 09:22 AM, Eric Paris wrote:
> They would be equivalent if and only if journald had CAP_AUDIT_READ.
>
> I suggest you take CAP_AUDIT_READ away from journald on systems which
> need the secadm/sysadmin split (which is a ridiculously stupid split
> anyway, but who am I to complain?)
>
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh(a)redhat.com> wrote:
>> Meaning looking at the journal would be equivalent to looking at
>> /var/log/audit/audit.log.
>>
>>
>> On 04/23/2014 11:37 AM, Eric Paris wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2014-04-23 at 11:36 -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
>>>> I guess the problem would be that the sysadm_t would be able to look at
>>>> the journal which would now contain the audit content.
>>> right. so include it in the sysadm_secadm bool
>>>
>>>> On 04/23/2014 10:42 AM, Eric Paris wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 2014-04-23 at 09:40 -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
>>>>>> Here are the capabilities we currently give to sysadm_t with
>>>>>> sysadm_secadm 1.0.0 Disabled
>>>>>>
>>>>>> allow sysadm_t sysadm_t : capability { chown dac_override
>>>>>> dac_read_search fowner fsetid kill setgid setuid setpcap
linux_immutable
>>>>>> net_bind_service net_broadcast net_admin net_raw ipc_lock
ipc_owner
>>>>>> sys_rawio sys_chroot sys_ptrace sys_pacct sys_admin sys_boot
sys_nice
>>>>>> sys_resource sys_time sys_tty_config mknod lease audit_write
setfcap } ;
>>>>>> allow sysadm_t sysadm_t : capability { setgid setuid
sys_chroot }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> allow sysadm_t sysadm_t : capability2 { syslog block_suspend
} ;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cap_audit_write might be a problem?
>>>>> cap_audit_write is fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> syslogd_t (aka journal) is going to need the new permission
>>>>> cap_audit_read. Also, as steve pointed out, someone may be likely
to
>>>>> want to be able to disable that permission easily.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Eric
>>>>>
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