On 05/21/2018 02:30 PM, Steve Grubb wrote:
> Hello Stefan,
>
> On Monday, May 21, 2018 1:53:04 PM EDT Stefan Berger wrote:
> > On 05/21/2018 12:58 PM, Steve Grubb wrote:
> > > On Thursday, May 17, 2018 10:18:13 AM EDT Stefan Berger wrote:
> > > > > audit_log_container_info() then releasing the local context.
This
> > > > > version of the record has additional concerns covered here:
> > > > >
https://github.com/linux-audit/audit-kernel/issues/52
> > > > Following the discussion there and the concern with breaking user
space,
> > > > how can we split up the AUDIT_INTEGRITY_RULE that is used in
> > > > ima_audit_measurement() and ima_parse_rule(), without 'breaking
user
> > > > space'?
> > > >
> > > > A message produced by ima_parse_rule() looks like this here:
> > > >
> > > > type=INTEGRITY_RULE msg=audit(1526566213.870:305):
action="dont_measure"
> > > > fsmagic="0x9fa0" res=1
> > > Why is action and fsmagic being logged as untrusted strings? Untrusted
> > > strings are used when an unprivileged user can affect the contents of the
> > > field such as creating a file with space or special characters in the
> > > name.
> > >
> > > Also, subject and object information is missing. Who loaded this rule?
> > >
> > > > in contrast to that an INTEGRITY_PCR record type:
> > > >
> > > > type=INTEGRITY_PCR msg=audit(1526566235.193:334): pid=1615 uid=0
auid=0
> > > > ses=2 subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
> > > > op="invalid_pcr" cause="open_writers"
comm="scp"
> > > > name="/var/log/audit/audit.log" dev="dm-0"
ino=1962625 res=1
> > > Why is op & cause being logged as an untrusted string? This also has
> > > incomplete subject information.
> > It's calling audit_log_string() in both cases:
> >
> >
https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/security/integrity/integrity
> > _audit.c#L48
> I see. Looking things over, I see that it seems like it should do the right
> thing. But the original purpose for this function is here:
>
>
https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/kernel/audit.c#L1944
>
> This is where it is logging an untrusted string and has to decide to encode
> it or just place it in quotes. If it has quotes, that means it's an untrusted
> string but has no control characters in it. I think you want to use
> audit_log_format() for any string that is trustworthy.
Replacing all occurrences (in IMA) of audit_log_string() with
audit_log_format().
>
>
> As an aside, I wonder why audit_log_string() is in the API when it is a
> helper to audit_log_untrustedstring() ? Without understanding the rules of
> untrusted strings, it can't be used correctly without re-inventing
> audit_log_untrustedstring() by hand.
>
>
> > > > Should some of the fields from INTEGRITY_PCR also appear in
> > > > INTEGRITY_RULE? If so, which ones?
> > > pid, uid, auid, tty, session, subj, comm, exe, res. <- these are
> > > required to be searchable
> > >
> > > > We could probably refactor the current integrity_audit_message()
and
> > > > have ima_parse_rule() call into it to get those fields as well. I
> > > > suppose adding new fields to it wouldn't be considered breaking
user
> > > > space?
> > > The audit user space utilities pretty much expects those fields in that
> > > order for any IMA originating events. You can add things like op or
> > > cause before
> > We will call into audit_log_task, which will put the parameters into
> > correct order:
> >
> > auid uid gid ses subj pid comm exe
> I'm telling you what the correct order is. :-) A long time ago, the IMA
:-) Thanks. Was getting confused.
> system had audit events with the order I'm mentioning. For example, here's
> one from a log I collected back in 2013:
>
> type=INTEGRITY_PCR msg=audit(1327409021.813:21): pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295
> ses=4294967295 subj=kernel op="add_template_measure"
cause="hash_added"
> comm="init" name="01parse-kernel.sh" dev=rootfs ino=5413 res=0
>
> it was missing "tty" and "exe", but the order is as I mentioned.
The
> expectation is that INTEGRITY events maintain this established order across
> all events.
I am *appending* exe= and tty= now:
type=INTEGRITY_PCR msg=audit(1526939047.809:305): pid=1609 uid=0 auid=0
ses=2 subj=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
op="invalid_pcr" cause="open_writers" comm="ssh"
name="/var/lib/sss/mc/passwd" dev="dm-0" ino=1962679 res=1
exe="/usr/bin/ssh" tty=tty2
This isn't necessary since they already covered in the already
connected SYSCALL record which duplicates even more information than is
already.
Stefan
> -Steve
>
> >
https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/kernel/auditsc.c#L2433
> >
> > > that. The reason why you can do that is those additional fields are not
> > > required to be searchable by common criteria.
> > >
> > > -Steve
- RGB
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