On Friday, July 11, 2014 12:16:47 PM Eric Paris wrote:
On Fri, 2014-07-11 at 12:11 -0400, Paul Moore wrote:
> On Thursday, July 10, 2014 09:06:02 PM H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> > Incidentally: do seccomp users know that on an x86-64 system you can
> > recevie system calls from any of the x86 architectures, regardless of
> > how the program is invoked? (This is unusual, so normally denying those
> > "alien" calls is the right thing to do.)
>
> I obviously can't speak for all seccomp users, but libseccomp handles this
> by checking the seccomp_data->arch value at the start of the filter and
> killing (by default) any non-native architectures. If you want, you can
> change this default behavior or add support for other architectures (e.g.
> create a filter that allows both x86-64 and x32 but disallows x86, or any
> combination of the three for that matter).
Maybe libseccomp does some HORRIFIC contortions under the hood, but the
interface is crap... Since seccomp_data->arch can't distinguish between
X32 and X86_64. If I write a seccomp filter which says
KILL arch != x86_64
KILL init_module
ALLOW everything else
I can still call init_module, I just have to use the X32 variant.
If libseccomp is translating:
KILL arch != x86_64 into:
KILL arch != x86_64
KILL syscall_nr >= 2000
That's just showing how dumb the kernel interface is... Good for you
guys, but the kernel is just being dumb :)
You're not going to hear me ever say that I like how the x32 ABI was done, it
is a real mess from a seccomp filter point of view and we have to do some
nasty stuff in libseccomp to make it all work correctly (see my comments on
the libseccomp-devel list regarding my severe displeasure over x32), but
what's done is done.
I think it's too late to change the x32 seccomp filter ABI.
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paul moore
security and virtualization @ redhat