On 2017-04-12 14:49, Steve Grubb wrote:
On Wednesday, April 12, 2017 2:43:21 AM EDT Richard Guy Briggs
wrote:
> On 2017-04-11 15:36, Paul Moore wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 6:29 AM, Richard Guy Briggs <rgb(a)redhat.com>
wrote:
> > > On 2017-03-09 09:34, Steve Grubb wrote:
> > >> On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 4:10:49 PM EST Richard Guy Briggs wrote:
> > >> > > > > > one possibly audit-worth case which (if I
read correctly)
> > >> > > > > > this will
> > >> > > > > > skip is where a setuid-root binary has
filecaps which *limit*
> > >> > > > > > its
> > >> > > > > > privs.
> > >> > > > > > Does that matter?
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > I hadn't thought of that case, but I did
consider in the setuid
> > >> > > > > case
> > >> > > > > comparing before and after without setuid forcing
the drop of
> > >> > > > > all
> > >> > > > > capabilities via "ambient". Mind you,
this bug has been around
> > >> > > > > before
> > >> > > > > Luto's patch that adds the ambient
capabilities set.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Can you suggest a scenario where that might happen?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Sorry, do you mean the case I brought up, or the one you
mentioned?
> > >> > > I
> > >> > > don't quite understnad the one you brought up. For mine
it's
> > >> > > pretty
> > >> > > simple to reproduce, just
> > >> >
> > >> > I was talking about the case you brought up, but they could be
the
> > >> > same
> > >> > case.
> > >> >
> > >> > I was thinking of a case where the caps actually change, but are
> > >> > overridden by the blanket full permissions of setuid.
> > >> If there actually is a change in capability bits
besides the implied
> > >> change of capabilities based on the change of the uid alone, then it
> > >> should be logged.> >
> > > Are you speaking of a change in pP' only from pI, or also pI',
pE' and
> > > pA'?
> > >
> > > Something like ( pP' xor pI ) not empty?
This is what I'm trying to clarify.
> > > The previous patch I'd sent was reasonably easy to
understand, but I'm
> > > having trouble adding this new twist to the logic expression in question
> > > due to the inverted combination of pre-existing items. I'm having
> > > trouble visualizing a 5 or more-dimensional Karnaugh map...
> > >
> > > While I am at it, I notice pA is missing from the audit record. The
> > > record contains fields "old_pp", "old_pi",
"old_pe", "new_pp", "new_pi",
> > > "new_pe" so in keeping with the previous record normalizations,
I'd like
> > > to change the "new_*" variants to simply drop the
"new_" prefix.
> > >
> > >
https://github.com/linux-audit/audit-kernel/issues/40
> >
> > Yes, there is the separate ambient capabilities record patch, but
> > where do we stand with this patch? From what I gather there is still
> > some uncertainty here?
>
> Yes, I put this on my back burner thinking about how best to re-approach
> this, hoping others would offer some insight or advice how to attack
> this, otherwise I'm going to end up with a horrendous conditional
> expression, I fear.
>
> Steve, I was hoping to get a clarification from you about which
> capability bits had changed.
I am not sure what you are asking of me.
I'm trying to understand exactly which capability sets should be
compared to determine if there was a material change, but perhaps that
question is better asked of Serge. What does the certification care
about in terms that helps me code this?
-Steve
- RGB
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